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		<title>By: Newjarheaddean</title>
		<link>http://www.d-n-i.net/dni/2008/04/25/ready-aim-misfire/#comment-1030</link>
		<dc:creator>Newjarheaddean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’ve recently been seeing a lot of information on these Excalibur guided shells, it all sounds great.

However if all these Advanced guided munitions (AGM) circuits ever failed to serve us. I’m afraid we well have few personal who can read a map to find the burn.

I believe the brass is aware of the training waning woes. It’s no wonder to me since this is the same system that changes its terms (for the same meanings) at every level of command. And changes it's hole vocabulary every generation. Example WMD weapons of Mass Destruction. It use to be NBC nuclear, biological, Chemical. IMO the new one is to broad. But it sounds scarier. All this leaves no chance to develop a true worrier class to protect those worker ants, and poets. 

Thanks for the information and time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve recently been seeing a lot of information on these Excalibur guided shells, it all sounds great.</p>
<p>However if all these Advanced guided munitions (AGM) circuits ever failed to serve us. I’m afraid we well have few personal who can read a map to find the burn.</p>
<p>I believe the brass is aware of the training waning woes. It’s no wonder to me since this is the same system that changes its terms (for the same meanings) at every level of command. And changes it&#8217;s hole vocabulary every generation. Example WMD weapons of Mass Destruction. It use to be NBC nuclear, biological, Chemical. IMO the new one is to broad. But it sounds scarier. All this leaves no chance to develop a true worrier class to protect those worker ants, and poets. </p>
<p>Thanks for the information and time.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.d-n-i.net/dni/2008/04/25/ready-aim-misfire/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 22:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emery Nelsonon 25

"At the highest level we can count on a chaotic Ferris Bueller’s Day OFF, while they try and start an air war (effectiveness, as always, matters not), which is the historical fall back position."

If that means we're the best,  you're right !
sarc
;0)

Cosell;
"You're being very belicose arn't you ?"

Ali;

I don't know what that means,  but if it's good,
then I must be the greatest,   of all time !"

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emery Nelsonon 25</p>
<p>&#8220;At the highest level we can count on a chaotic Ferris Bueller’s Day OFF, while they try and start an air war (effectiveness, as always, matters not), which is the historical fall back position.&#8221;</p>
<p>If that means we&#8217;re the best,  you&#8217;re right !<br />
sarc<br />
;0)</p>
<p>Cosell;<br />
&#8220;You&#8217;re being very belicose arn&#8217;t you ?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ali;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what that means,  but if it&#8217;s good,<br />
then I must be the greatest,   of all time !&#8221;</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: The Appalachianist</title>
		<link>http://www.d-n-i.net/dni/2008/04/25/ready-aim-misfire/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>The Appalachianist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm commenting late here.  The post reminded me of some of my observations and experiences in Iraq.  I'm not an Artillerymen, my background is Infantry. There was some Artillery being used, but it was limited. Most FA's were guarding gates, running convoy's or knocking down doors. It seemed 4th ID didn't see Indirect Fire as an asset. Giving Indirect Fire is an asset to be used discretely in Iraq. 1st Cav Div seemed to make good use of it.
I was in CMATT Advising Iraqi Army.

I did see the first Excalibur Rounds fired in Iraq. 
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m982-155.htm
This device could have great potential if used correctly.

Not here for a shameless plug. But, I wrote about the subject some on my blog.
http://hillbillyrave.blogspot.com/2008/05/shot-out.html#comments

I do see it good that it's recognized that the answer lyes within the NCO Corps. Here, and when ever theories of Warfare are discussed the focus seems to be on officers. Then NCO's are the ones to get the vital techniques down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m commenting late here.  The post reminded me of some of my observations and experiences in Iraq.  I&#8217;m not an Artillerymen, my background is Infantry. There was some Artillery being used, but it was limited. Most FA&#8217;s were guarding gates, running convoy&#8217;s or knocking down doors. It seemed 4th ID didn&#8217;t see Indirect Fire as an asset. Giving Indirect Fire is an asset to be used discretely in Iraq. 1st Cav Div seemed to make good use of it.<br />
I was in CMATT Advising Iraqi Army.</p>
<p>I did see the first Excalibur Rounds fired in Iraq.<br />
<a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m982-155.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/m982-155.htm</a><br />
This device could have great potential if used correctly.</p>
<p>Not here for a shameless plug. But, I wrote about the subject some on my blog.<br />
<a href="http://hillbillyrave.blogspot.com/2008/05/shot-out.html#comments" rel="nofollow">http://hillbillyrave.blogspot.com/2008/05/shot-out.html#comments</a></p>
<p>I do see it good that it&#8217;s recognized that the answer lyes within the NCO Corps. Here, and when ever theories of Warfare are discussed the focus seems to be on officers. Then NCO&#8217;s are the ones to get the vital techniques down.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.d-n-i.net/dni/2008/04/25/ready-aim-misfire/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 15:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now it's time to turn out attention
to 'precision Weapons'

*"it's all bullS$^t as far as I'm concerned"

* Chuck Spinney on precision
weapons,  in "why we fight."


http://tinyurl.com/6rg9ly

"BAGHDAD (CNN) -- Three Iraq boys were killed in an airstrike in eastern Baghdad on Saturday as they were sifting through trash, looking for stuff to sell, said a 10-year-old boy wounded in the attack."

"I was hit by an American helicopter," Ahmed Yahya said. "I was with a group of about 10 children who were collecting empty soft drink cans in Jamila. We haven't done anything."

"U.S. military officials confirmed firing two Hellfire missiles at a rooftop in the vicinity about the same time that the boy said the attack took place. However, they say the only damage U.S. forces saw was to the rooftop."

Snip
_________
Any questions ?

Here endeth the lesson.
MaX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now it&#8217;s time to turn out attention<br />
to &#8216;precision Weapons&#8217;</p>
<p>*&#8221;it&#8217;s all bullS$^t as far as I&#8217;m concerned&#8221;</p>
<p>* Chuck Spinney on precision<br />
weapons,  in &#8220;why we fight.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6rg9ly" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6rg9ly</a></p>
<p>&#8220;BAGHDAD (CNN) &#8212; Three Iraq boys were killed in an airstrike in eastern Baghdad on Saturday as they were sifting through trash, looking for stuff to sell, said a 10-year-old boy wounded in the attack.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I was hit by an American helicopter,&#8221; Ahmed Yahya said. &#8220;I was with a group of about 10 children who were collecting empty soft drink cans in Jamila. We haven&#8217;t done anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;U.S. military officials confirmed firing two Hellfire missiles at a rooftop in the vicinity about the same time that the boy said the attack took place. However, they say the only damage U.S. forces saw was to the rooftop.&#8221;</p>
<p>Snip<br />
_________<br />
Any questions ?</p>
<p>Here endeth the lesson.<br />
MaX</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 18:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MickeyPvX
on 27 Apr 2008 at 1:48 pm 

"But y’know, it’s here in case war breaks out…or something…"

Funny,  and have YOU heard the one about
the Osprey and the C-47 ?

M

http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=152577

"Critics have charged that the Marine Corps is restricting the use of the Osprey to what amounts to non-combat situations."

""Basically, they are using it as a truck flying from one relatively safe area to another, as they would use a C-130 cargo aircraft to move soldiers and equipment," said Philip Coyle, the Pentagon's chief weapons tester under former President Bill Clinton."

""But at $10.4 billion (the cost of the latest Pentagon multiyear contract), it makes an awfully expensive truck," he said"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MickeyPvX<br />
on 27 Apr 2008 at 1:48 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;But y’know, it’s here in case war breaks out…or something…&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny,  and have YOU heard the one about<br />
the Osprey and the C-47 ?</p>
<p>M</p>
<p><a href="http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=152577" rel="nofollow">http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=152577</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Critics have charged that the Marine Corps is restricting the use of the Osprey to what amounts to non-combat situations.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Basically, they are using it as a truck flying from one relatively safe area to another, as they would use a C-130 cargo aircraft to move soldiers and equipment,&#8221; said Philip Coyle, the Pentagon&#8217;s chief weapons tester under former President Bill Clinton.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;But at $10.4 billion (the cost of the latest Pentagon multiyear contract), it makes an awfully expensive truck,&#8221; he said&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 18:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MickeyPvX

"The Air Force was apparently trying to send the F-22 into Iraq for “electronic surveillance,” only oops, there’s too much for it to handle"

Thanks for that Mikey,
I may pass that link on.
I'm not surprised
nor even dis-appointed since I wrote
off ,  at least in my mind,  as opposed
to my taxes,  the F-22 years ago.

If I wasn't laughing,  I'd cry.
MaX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MickeyPvX</p>
<p>&#8220;The Air Force was apparently trying to send the F-22 into Iraq for “electronic surveillance,” only oops, there’s too much for it to handle&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for that Mikey,<br />
I may pass that link on.<br />
I&#8217;m not surprised<br />
nor even dis-appointed since I wrote<br />
off ,  at least in my mind,  as opposed<br />
to my taxes,  the F-22 years ago.</p>
<p>If I wasn&#8217;t laughing,  I&#8217;d cry.<br />
MaX</p>
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		<title>By: maximilliangc</title>
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		<dc:creator>maximilliangc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loggie20

"Forward defense fits with expensive failed plotting."

I'll try this link one more time.
It's been blocked at least 3 times as far as I can determin.

If you liked that,  you'll really love this.
I've argued from this perspective for quite sometime.

If Americans really want an economy predicated on perpetual war,
and fear mongering,   that's your own business, ok,  and be prepaired to one day,  eventually pay a really big price.

But for God's sake,  at least be honest about it,  and vote on it,  honestly,  and stop all the rediculous LIES,   trying to concille that truth.  and that choice,  afterall,  we're not fooling anyone anymore but ourselves.

Maximillian.

http://independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=2179</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>loggie20</p>
<p>&#8220;Forward defense fits with expensive failed plotting.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try this link one more time.<br />
It&#8217;s been blocked at least 3 times as far as I can determin.</p>
<p>If you liked that,  you&#8217;ll really love this.<br />
I&#8217;ve argued from this perspective for quite sometime.</p>
<p>If Americans really want an economy predicated on perpetual war,<br />
and fear mongering,   that&#8217;s your own business, ok,  and be prepaired to one day,  eventually pay a really big price.</p>
<p>But for God&#8217;s sake,  at least be honest about it,  and vote on it,  honestly,  and stop all the rediculous LIES,   trying to concille that truth.  and that choice,  afterall,  we&#8217;re not fooling anyone anymore but ourselves.</p>
<p>Maximillian.</p>
<p><a href="http://independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=2179" rel="nofollow">http://independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=2179</a></p>
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		<title>By: loggie20</title>
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		<dc:creator>loggie20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 23:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MaX,

Excellent.

We had seen nothing of consequence from the Reagan splurge by the time the wall fell.

Forward defense fits with expensive failed plotting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MaX,</p>
<p>Excellent.</p>
<p>We had seen nothing of consequence from the Reagan splurge by the time the wall fell.</p>
<p>Forward defense fits with expensive failed plotting.</p>
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		<title>By: maximilliangc</title>
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		<dc:creator>maximilliangc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loggie,

"We should think of new age colonies more."

The Brilliant Chalmers Johnson on The Rand Corporation,
US hegemony and grand stratigies.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt331.html

" A Litany of Horrors "

by Tom Engelhardt and Chalmers Johnson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loggie,</p>
<p>&#8220;We should think of new age colonies more.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Brilliant Chalmers Johnson on The Rand Corporation,<br />
US hegemony and grand stratigies.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt331.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/engelhardt/engelhardt331.html</a></p>
<p>&#8221; A Litany of Horrors &#8221;</p>
<p>by Tom Engelhardt and Chalmers Johnson</p>
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		<title>By: loggie20</title>
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		<dc:creator>loggie20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, I recall a lecture on the rapid decline of United Kingdom once the benefits of the colonial form reversed.

We should think of new age colonies more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, I recall a lecture on the rapid decline of United Kingdom once the benefits of the colonial form reversed.</p>
<p>We should think of new age colonies more.</p>
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